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BASE Jumping Question

Discussion in 'Urban Community Portal' started by Power Junkie, Jan 22, 2009.

  1. Power Junkie

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    I've seen a few BASE videos on here; some cool, some crazy, but I'm curious how you get into it?

    Is it a case of doing a few hundred skydives and then teaming up with other people or do adrenalin junkies just chance it after a few quick lessons?
    I'd love to hear some personal opinions from jumpers.

    As much as I'd love to do it, I don't think I have the balls for it.
    Between the dude who slammed against a cliff side and the one who got done in Dubai, it's safer watching it for now.


    A couple of lucky escapes.

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gIHr3gWsMVY

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YsOK-tr0of8
     

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  2. DownFallen.

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    Firstly ....the vision of dread haired 'adrenalin junkies' is a myth.
    Most jumpers I know are quite the opposite...calm, analytical and very careful.

    Entry is via 'First Jump Courses' ( often prvided by the gear manufacturers) and usually off a bridge ( less risk of hitting something other than the ground)
    Most courses will ask for a minimum of 250 skydives....frankly this is far far too low and we all know it.
    These are short courses and teach you 'just' about enough to stay alive...and thats it.
    You are fully expected to follow up on that course with an extended period of time back home with an experienced jumper.....and if you have rushed in to the sport without adequate preparation, the welcome from them wont be a warm one.
    There are other routes in via mentorship with an experienced jumper....but entry criteria will be much much higher.....more skydives, more related experience over a year or two ground crewing for a jumper, before you get anywhere near jumping.

    After I decided I definatly wanted to do it, it took me two years in preparation...and I had 600 skydives at the time.....and I still felt I could have prepped a little more.

    The risk of these kind of things is present on every jump...every one.
    The more prepared you are the better able you are to not just deal with it but also help avoid it by configuring your gear appropriately and walking away from the jump when conditions are bad.....but...the risk of something going wrong is present on EVERY jump not matter how prpped you are.
    Thats something you have to accept before you do your first BASE jump....and we all said 'yeah I do accept that risk' before we started jumping....we all say that a bit too quickly and a bit naively when starting off I'd say
    You have to 'really' accept the potential consequences...which is serious injury or death, and its really not an easy acceptance , but one you must have before you start jumping.
    Standing on the exit point looking down at the ground, isnt the best time to be having some doubt about whether you have really accepted those risks or not.

    One of the best experiences of my jumping career....I seriously, have absolutely no regrets.
    I looked at a picture of it and said.
    'I'm going to climb that and jump off it'....and did.
    Everything before and after that decision was just details.
    Again it comes down to knowing the risks and truly accepting the consequences of what you are doing...then you can enjoy the journey it takes you on.

    Another jumper said it much better than I ever could...something that didnt make alot of sense to me before I was a BASE jumper
    'BASE jumping has been one of the most rewarding experiences of my life, but something I wouldnt recommend to anyone'
     
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  3. Power Junkie

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    Thankyou for such a detailed response.

    Firstly much kudos and respect for the Dubai jump.
    A friend who lives and works out there mentioned it in passing as it made headlines in the papers and pissed off a lot of officials.
    I thought it was pretty fucking radical.
    If I had the experience and balls, I'd do the towers in Malaysia from the bridge.

    I have to ask, but what's the scariest experience you've had doing it, apart from the police and the Bullshit-O-Meter which probably doesn't count.

    If you're up for learning some gymnastic moves, it'd be pretty cool to do a kick the moon or gainer off of a building before you open up.
     
  4. DownFallen.

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    Dramatically/Physically??..like in your links ?
    Nothing major......yet, but its always just around the corner.

    A few openings , lower than expected .
    A couple due to complacency (which I strive continously to recognise and keep in check) .The others due to PC hesitations...which unfortunatly can happen at any time.
    Some 180 degree off heading openings( where you open and start flying back towards the thing you just jumped off ) and plenty of 'off headings' in between 0 and 180.
    A tree landing,A landing hitting a lamp post and one or two 'less than graceful' landings.

    Some of the scariest stuff though....is often in your head.
    -Hearing about friends and people you know who have had a big accident or paid the ultimate price...is a scary and sickening feeling, ....thankfully its rare, and even rarer its a friend you know...but we did lose a top bloke in the UK community in 2008 :(
    -My first few 'solo' jumps ( on your own, no one with you, and no groundcrew) were a bit of a mindfuck....but I've grown to love 'em dearly.
    - Periods of self doubt ( which all jumpers go through sooner or later, but some just dont admit to) where doubts, often over some very benign and simple aspect of jumping , can just stick in your head and mess with you.
    They come and go as they please...and can stay with you a while.
     
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    I've been skydiving for a couple of years now, when I first got into it I was very firm on the thought that BASE was never something I would consider - I like having a second option should my main be unusable, and opening into relatively clear airspace.

    More recently my thoughts keep going back to it with less of the absolute, I have spoken to a few BASE jumpers, read the notes given out on a first jump course and researched the ins and outs of the sport - though currently I am still not sure if I ever will try it, I am certainly interested enough to be greedy for information.

    I know someone very well who had very high jump numbers, didn't do a first jump course, took a CRW (canopy formation) kit and jumped it from somewhere that was too low - he was lucky and ended up with broken ankles. Taking those sort of unnecessary risks is not something I'd be comfortable doing.
     
  7. DownFallen.

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    Count the fuck ups right there..talk about chain of events.
    Whilst higher (skydive) jump numbers are generally a good thing....generally (as your experience /awareness under canopy is greater)
    ......it counts for nothing if you think high jump numbers in skydiving equates to 'ability' in BASE.....it doesnt.
    Its only releavnt if those higher jump numbers were gained doing jumps that were training for BASE....and most skydives are not.

    And just as bad....if the skygod at the DZ with x thousand jumps brings that 'attitude' to his first BASE jump...he's in for a surprise, as in this case a painful one.
    Being an experienced skydiver isnt the only requiremnt in being a suitable candidate to start BASE jumping....its a different game altogether.

    He's really lucky he just broke his ankles.....seriously.
     
  8. Daleaholic

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    I remember watching the Burj jump video a while ago but have just watched it again and may I say well done on a fantastic achievement. I'm sure I'm the billionth person to tell you this but I have major respect for you!:thumb
     
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    What a fantastic read this thread has been!
     
  10. LittleMike

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    Absolutely! BASE is something that absolutely fascinates me. Thank you for taking the time to write all this :)

    That's one of the best quotes I've ever heard
     
  11. NickUk

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    Downfallen, Did you do the Dubai jump with a french guy?

    Much respect for that mate seriously!

    ~Nick~
     
  12. DownFallen.

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    No ...I did mine solo
     
  13. NickUk

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    Got your pm mate!
    Kudos dude!

    ~Nick~
     
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    Sorry, For me 'Base Jumping' has nothing to do with UE. Yet some interesting first attempts at genuine explores end up in the bin because the photo is a little out of focus.....

    But then again I'm a boring old git.
     
  15. LittleMike

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    What does that have to do with anything? Did you even look at which section this thread is posted?
     
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