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Lead or Rumour info - Deepcut Barracks - One for The Future!

Discussion in 'Leads, Rumours and News...' started by nickg, Dec 8, 2010.

  1. nickg

    nickg Silent Assassin
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    The Princess Royal Barracks, Deepcut, commonly referred to as Deepcut Barracks, is the headquarters of the Royal Logistic Corps (RLC) of the British Army and the Defence School of Logistics. Located near Camberley, Surrey, England it was the headquarters of the Royal Army Ordnance Corps until the formation of the RLC in 1993. At that time, it was known as Blackdown Barracks.

    Royal Logistic Corps is based in Dettingen House and the barracks are home to the RLC Museum, the Band of the RLC, The Defence School of Logistics and 25 Training Support Regiment RLC, which trains the officers and soldiers in a range of logistical skills.

    As a consequence of the Defence Training Review and the merger of tri-service training to a single location, the barracks are to close by 2013 with the land being released for housing development.

    http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/5619ADA8-F0CE-4A50-B362-E8C27B89F7D2/0/deepcut.pdf
     

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  2. diehardlove

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    Now that looks interesting roll on 2013.
     
  3. Ordnance

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    Been on the cards for a good 10 years already, The building of civilian housing on the Alma/Dettingen Barracks site c2000 (Estate with round feature in pictures) proved popular and PRB is on a prime site. This added to the popularity of the location suggests it is just a matter of time... BUT

    The METRIX plan to consolidate technical training at RAF Saint Athan by 2008 fell by the wayside to be replaced with a planned move to Worthy Down by 2010 (only weeks to go now)

    The Defence School of Catering at St Omer Barracks, Aldershot (Also part of the Defence School of Logistics) moved there in 2009. Buller Barracks next door is also part of 25 Training Regt RLC, and no building has started at Worthy Down or anywhere else to take the units from Deepcut. I would not be surprissed if the other half of 25 Training Regt RLC moved into Buller Barracks, leaving only HQ DRLC (inc Museum) and HQ DSL (Supplier Training) to find new homes.

    Currant talk is no earlier than 2016 and the year is slipping all the time!

    DST Leconsfield has already got a repreave from closing with 2 RLC Sqadrons (Driver Training) being re-located there, and I would not be surprised if parts of Deepcut remained as well, bearing in mind it is next door to ATR Pirbrite.

    I am ex RAOC/RLC and active in the Corps Association, and we are very interested in the plans ref St Barbara's Garrison Church, the RLC Museum and the War Memorials within the camp.

    I will know more in the new year and the effects of the Strategic Defence Review on the Deepcut re-location plans.
     
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    Now I wonder if this will include the stuff close to Bisley Range (along the back of the canal/railway line)...
     
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    A lot of Surrey Heath is in the Thames Basin Heaths Special Protection Area (Including Ash & Bisley ranges upto Brookwood railway line) and the local plans call for open areas as well as devlopment. Pirbrite Camp, Bisley and large parts of Surrey Heath are to remain in MoD hands.

    For info see;

    http://www.surreyheath.gov.uk/planning/deepcutdevproject/deepcutCapStudy.htm

    Part 3 has a map showing areas of development plans.
     
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    course Deepcut is of more interest than other barracks because of the infamous 'suicides' there.
     
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    Suicides.. pah.. how someone who shoots themselves in the chest 5 times can be classed as a "suicide" I don't know.
     
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    It's certainly feasible. The L85 has a fully automatic mode and it's cyclic rate is high enough that the quickest snatch of the trigger will fire off at least three rounds. If the change lever was set to automatic instead of repetition (I.e. single shot) I can totally see someone managing to fire off five rounds before their finger slipped off the trigger. In fact if I was going to use the weapon to kill myself, it would make sense to me to have it on automatic. However given the uncontrolled recoil of the weapon, getting 3-5 rounds in the same place would be near impossible which was one of the suspicious factors in one of the suicides.

    However I believe the Deepcut deaths where suspicious because the nature of the gunshot wounds was not consistant with someone who had shot themselves, regardless of the weapons discharge state, because blood spatter, powder tests and such all indicated the weapons had not been fired by the victims.

    Anyway, the most interesting thing about Deepcut would be the servicing tunnels by far because as camps go it's fairly boring.
     
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    Thanks for your slant on things Keffa, clearly guns are not my speciality so I was probably talking out my arse but it's interesting hearing a perspective from someone "in the know"... service tunnels eh?
     
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    Agree with Keffa re 'suicides' as I have read the second Surrey Police report.

    Did you know that in the same time scale, thier were more suicides at Catterick Garrison by hanging, but 'gun shot wounds' was more news worthy! The Armed Forces as a whole has below the national average for suicides, and rarely do we hear of university students killing themselves, but they do....

    Anyway back on thread - 'Service Tunnels? Princess Royal Barracks is a 1970 build and has no 'tunnels' as such, only shallow 'cut & cover' trenches for utilities & the like. It does however have a nice water tower.
     
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    It would make sense there being more suicides at Catterick Garrison. I nearly considered it myself when I spent a weekend at camp recently to avoid travelling home in the snow. :rolleyes:

    I was under the impression there was a number of disused servicing tunnels similar in kind but not use to the ones at Whinny hill?
     
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    This has been on the cards for 20 odd years now. The canal that is adjacent to the barracks has always struggled with water levels due to rubbish supplies. There is pressure from the canal authority to go ahead with the housing development, as drainage water from the streets would be channelled to the canal :) I will keep to guys updated if I hear anything else.

    I work at a boatyard on the canal btw, hence the info
     
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    First it was St Athan then Worthy Down, now its Yorkshire!

    Latest info via HQ DRLC Deepcut is still no earlier than 2013 and probably much later than that as no modification or 'new build' has even started anywhere to accommodate the move.

    However, even the Worthy Down move is under the 'axe' with Leconfield being the new home for Deepcut!

    Sites now being examined as Joint Service "benchmarks" are:

    HMS Sultan for electro-mechanical engineering training;

    RAF Cosford for aeronautical engineering training;

    Defence School of Transport at Leconfield for logistic training;

    Defence Intelligence and Security Centre at Chicksands for security, intelligence, language and photography training;

    Royal School of Signals at Blandford for communications and information systems training;

    RAF Halton for joint personnel administration and police training.

    Other bases possibly under threat are:

    Bordon, Arborfield, Lodge Hill and Chattenden, St Omer, Chichester, Worthy Down and Beaconsfield.

    Sites which could lose some training activity are:

    Chatham, Marchwood, St Athan, RAF Cranwell, Shrivenham, HMS Collingwood (Gosport), RAF Digby, RAF Benson, RAF Brize Norton, Chatham, Grantham, Lympstone, Plymouth (excluding HMS Raleigh), Stafford, West Moors, Portsmouth and Wethersfield.
     
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    Hi there!
    Do you know if Arborfield is under any sort of threat of closure?Not that far,from Deepcut?...or is Arborfield r.e.m.e? I guess Minley Manor is to stay? Soz to put you on the spot,but i dont live too far from these places.used to do some nutty green-laning just off Red Lane..well i think thats its name...
     
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    Minley manor is staying, do you know the abandoned stables and houses near it? I used to go in there all the time as a kid :p
     
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