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Lead or Rumour info - Former Cooperative department store, Dartford, Kent

Discussion in 'Leads, Rumours and News...' started by Apollo, Oct 18, 2012.

  1. Apollo

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    Permission was granted last Thursday to partly demolish the former Cooperative department store on Spital St and Hythe St. The demolition will see the building gutted whilst retaining the facade, and the construction of yet another car park, in anticipation of any future development.

    The building is sealed tighter than a gnat's chaff, and I'm in the process of contacting the council (its owners), seeking permission to visit. It would be after asbestos removal and before the demolition, probably in the New Year. If successful, would anyone be interested in tagging along? It would probably need to be a small group.
     

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    Yep, you wont have any shortage of takers i wouldn't have thought
     
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    That is such a beautiful building. I think its really ignorant when places like this get demolished
     
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    Has this been demo'd yet? I would be up for it!
     
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    It's still very much there. My request seems to have fallen on deaf ears, I'll contact the council's planning department early next week. As I understand it, the site has asbestos, so it won't be until spring before demolition begins.
     
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    How are you doing with this Apollo, had a little snoop yesterday but still drum tight. There was a reasonably recent notice posted about demolition, supposedly started on 19/11/12, and completing on 26/04/13.

    No signs of any works though.
     
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    Pure economics. Strange thou it sounds it really is cheaper to build new than it is to refurbish the old or convert in many cases, especially when the place has been empty a long time and is an old building like this one.

    I won't be the council you'll need to contact, it will be the buildings owners who are:

    Homes And Communities Agency
    Central Business Exchange 11
    406-412 Midsummer Boulevard Central
    Milton Keynes
    MK9 2EA

    (that's their registered address for legal documents)

    Their Main HQ offices are based in London and Warrington.

    Warrington
    Arpley House
    110 Birchwood Boulevard
    Birchwood
    Warrington
    WA3 7QH

    London
    Maple House
    149 Tottenham Court Road
    London
    W1T 7BN

    I'd take a punt at contacting the London Office as a starting point. They're the ones who have put in the planning application anyway, so odds are they also own the place.

    There are also other offices around the country as well. Office locations | Homes and Communities Agency (HCA)

    As they're such a large organisation I think you'll be really lucky, but it does depend who you talk to.

    Good luck!
     
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    Thanks very much, Maniac. The last planning application lists a Mr Hobbs at the HCA Chatham office, so may contact him first. Thermotec-fire also made a great suggestion of contacting Clearway, the security company.

    The HCA is appealing for a variation of the planning permission, meaning the demolished site will be surrounded by hoarding for some time, rather than immediate work on a temporary car park. The demolition itself will still go ahead.
     
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    No the council and clearway only have access and actually Tesco own the site who also have access.
     
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    My mistake Tesco's investments own the street on the other side of the town that Apollo showed me... yes would be a good idea to contact clearway see what they come up with i will make some calls tomorrow. i need to talk to them about a warehouse in Belvedere anyway :)
     
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    Sorry to bump this thread up with little information, but it turns out HCA grossly underestimated its budget for the demolition, owing to stupendous amounts of asbestos. (Hence, why they're going to bulldoze the store and leave the site vacant for some time, rather than pay more money developing a car park.)
     
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    The contractor, John F Hunt is now on-site soft-stripping ahead of demolition presumably later this month.

    On the bright side, it's probably less secure now then it was in the past :rolleyes:
     
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    Any subscribers to this thread interested in up to the minute information for this weekend PM me NOW
     
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