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Lead or Rumour info - Liverpool One Underground / Old Dock

Discussion in 'Leads, Rumours and News...' started by JofishDee, May 20, 2012.

  1. JofishDee

    JofishDee 28DL Full Member
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    My apologies if this is in the wrong area but hopefully someone can shed some light on it.

    I have previously worked at Liverpool One managing a store for a while there. Whilst here it was by accident that I discovered that parts of Liverpool One have as many as six levels below them, with some areas consisting of narrow tunnels and an area 3 storeys below as big as a football pitch.

    There were rumours that part of these tunnels are connected to the old docks that can be seen through the little window near Lewis'. How true this is I don't know, currently waiting on a friend who still works here to check for me!

    Any info out there?
     

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  2. georgie

    georgie He Never Even Got There
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    I remember when time team was digging that out
     
  3. JofishDee

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    Hi Georgie. Yeah they did a little work on it a few years back. My friend has come up trumps and says there is an access route that's got a no entry sign on as it disappears into the older parts. You can access the corridor and the lift from within the underground car park. Once in the corridor there is no CCTV or guards. Employees use the doors to get into service areas so it's not unusual for people to be there. If it is as big as it shows on the map of the development site, it covers the whole of Liverpool One and extends under the Hilton and the police HQ.

    I think I'll take my time learning more on here before I attempt it as I wouldn't want to make a mistake only for them to block it for someone more experienced to attempt it.
     
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    The window is by John Lewis,not Lewis's. A slight but important difference to those who don't know the city. ;)

    No tunnels would go to the old dock,they wouldn't touch that-although there is one in the old dock that is centuries old,which they think might have been linked to the castle.

    Dave.
     
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    I bet a lot of scousers would say the same,despite "Castle Street" being a big clue,and South Castle St also before the courts were built. Alas there's as much left of it as there is of West Derby's castle,but I think I read somewhere some rich person built a replica of Liverpool's castle somewhere. I forget where,but it might have been Rivington.

    Dave.
     
  7. sim2lew

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    I'm sceptical, every other "hidden underground Liverpool" lead that I've looked at has shown nowt. Maybe I'm wrong, but this does sound a little far-fetched...
     
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    I'd heard rumours of a tunnel coming up from the dock area and along Dale street. A friend who used to work in the old State Ballroom told me that from the basement there was a semi-blocked access to said tunnel which was jam-packed with telecomms cables and the like. They used to love tunnels back in the day! Oh, apparently the tunnel dates back to slavery times so that slaves could be brought up for sale from the ships without offending the delicate eyes of the local gentry. Would love to know more.
     
  9. U-534

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    The old State oh i remember the mad nights in there angels next door old school music

    There is a main drain that flows under that street towards the mersey river

    I found a thread that had pictures in Hanover street of a tunnel below popped a cover and found a cobbled street below the ops said

    The old halfords shop site

    Under the old Kwik Fit was a bit of a strange one. This goes back years ago and this is from the horses mouth as I was there and have the pics to prove it. A few of us Williamson's Tunnels bods met up in the Dispensary one Sunday afternoon for a jar or 4 and we got in to conversation with the proprietor who said that the cellar floor sounded hollow. We decided to have a nose around the old kwik fit garage as it was empty and upon removing a drain cover, it dropped down about 10 foot in to what looked to be a narrow underground street/passageway. With the aid of a ladder (as you'll always find one on a Sunday afternoon in a pub...) we nipped down. It ran parallel to the road and had a number of bricked up sandstone lintle windows and 3 rectangle doorways blocked up. There were cobbles on the floor which suggested a part road but I think this was just a basement area for the houses above. Going towards Hardman Street was an arch blocked up that we couldn't get even a single brick out.

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  10. sim2lew

    sim2lew But what is fluorspar?
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    Looks like the original poster was referring to a table football pitch :p:
     
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    There were cobbles on the floor which suggested a part road but I think this was just a basement area for the houses above. Going towards Hardman Street was an arch blocked up that we couldn't get even a single brick out

    No idea mate but via memory's bit older than you lol the old sites under the flat iron building Not the TSB :p:
     
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    IDK there was one running up Dale St,though there is one running up James St (according to the UL book,it was originally some sort of escape tunnel from the castle),although a relative of mine said she remembered a tunnel going across Dale St from one side to the other so that people could cross,as the traffic was so busy years ago. She couldn't remember which buildings it connected though. I wonder if the one in the State has any links to the road tunnel as the ventilation station is next door,almost.

    Thanks for the pic under Hardman St ; I remember seeing that,and others,before when Cadfael posted them on YL somewhere some years ago,but his site didn't work last time I looked.

    Dave.
     
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    Yeah it was Rivington Pike. I did an undergrad project about Castle st and the area, and spoke to people at Western Approaches and the Town Hall. Although they couldn't actually confirm exactly where they were 'due to terrorism' tosh, the ladies I spoke to led me to believe that there is a tunnel that runs from the town hall down toward the river under the road, possibly linking a number of others around Western Approaches. It's probably worth going and asking there (at W.A), as the people seemed to know quite a bit.


     
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    'Scuse me, I didn't mean Castle st- I meant Water St, which obviously connects to Dale st.
     
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    I wonder if they meant that tunnel at the back of the town hall,which used to link [can't find the UL book right now so I might have remembered this wrongly] a former police station and prison,or another one. You can see the entrance to that one in the corner of the TH's lightwell,so it's not really a secret though.

    Dave.
     
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