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Report - St. Joseph's Seminary, Wigan 18/09/08

Discussion in 'Other Sites' started by Rookinella, Sep 20, 2008.

  1. Rookinella

    Rookinella I should have danced all night
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    Visited with Yaz and Scott.

    This impromptu visit was part of a bizarre trip to Manchester for many reasons including nearly getting beaten up on a roof by a bunch of Polish guys and dancing girls by the plenty. This was my third time here but it's been nearly a year since the last visit so it seemed like a good way to fill some empty hours. I don't care if the word "epic" is falling from favour-this place IS epic. I wanted to see the famous rows of sinks but like every time, I forgot where they were:rolleyes:

    Here's a bit of history:

    History
    St Joseph's College, Upholland is a Former Roman Catholic seminary, situated at Walthew Park, Upholland, Lancashire, England. The foundation of the large building was laid in April 1880 and college was opened in 1883. The buildings have recently been deconsecrated.

    St Joseph's College was founded in 1880 by Bishop Bernard O'Reilly to be the Seminary serving the North West of England. The college was formally opened in 1883 and was situated in Walthew Park, Upholland, the geographic centre of the Diocese of Liverpool.

    The first Junior Seminary of the Diocese was founded at St Edward's College in 1842 as a Catholic 'classical and commercial school' under the direction of the secular clergy and was established in Domingo House, a mansion in Everton. Its President for the next forty years was to be Monsignor Provost John Henry Fisher. When the Junior Seminarians moved to St Joseph's the school was taken over by the Christian Brothers (who also ran St John Rigby College in nearby Orrell) and continues to this day and now serves as the Liverpool Cathedral Choir School. In recognition of the heritage owed to St Edward's College one of the two chapels at Upholland was consecrated as the St Edward the Confessor Chapel.

    Along with the other main seminary in the north of England, Ushaw candidates for the priesthood studied and were ordained at the college. Up until the second Vatican Council boys as young as 11 years of age entered the Junior Seminary before progressing to the senior Seminary at 18. In 1972 following the changes of Vatican 2 the two junior seminaries of St Joseph's and Ushaw merged at Upholland, and in 1975, with declining numbers of men from Ireland offering themselves for the (now) Archdiocese of Liverpool the Senior seminary moved to Ushaw. St Joseph's continued to offer boarding school education for boys considering a vocation until 1987.

    Following the end of the seminary training and boarding education St Joseph's became home to the Northern Institute and was used as a retreat and conference centre for the Archdiocese under the leadership of Msgr John Devine.

    The election of Archbishop Patrick Kelly saw the controversial decision to close St Joseph's altogether and the property was sold to Anglo International who instructed AEW Architects for the conversion of the Grade 2 listed RC Seminary to 92 apartments, with 220 new build enabling units. The major controversies of the decision were the ongoing financial viability of St Joseph's (it had just started to make a small surplus under Devine's management) and the sale and disposal of the art and artefacts in the college, much of which had been donated by various parishes and people of the Archdiocese who were not offered their donations back.


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  2. Rookinella

    Rookinella I should have danced all night
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    Re: St. Joseph's Seminary, Wigan 18/09/08 REPORT

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    Alright ALRIGHT! I'll put it back!
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    Outside shot from last Winter
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  3. FreeLikeAMason

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    Were you guys like the first ones in or something? Amazing to see how it was compared to now anyway
     
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  4. GRONK

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    2008? A bit board are you? ;)

    Amazing how much the place has changed.
     
  5. FreeLikeAMason

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    Lol no not bored at all, I just love this place and curious to see how it first looked. Shame there's not more pics to compare
     
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  6. stranton

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    there's bloody millions of them
     
  7. FreeLikeAMason

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    Maybe I'm not looking in the right place, I want to find the first ever reports done on St Joe's
     
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