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28DL and UE in the News The Urban Explorer Website - Blackpool Gazette

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  1. Hidden

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    Woohoo I'm in an "underground group" :cool: Shame we couldn't be called "shady" as well.

    Err...how so?


    No "glamorous" photos then boys and girls, and best delete the Page 3 thread as well ;)
     
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    How exactly is that photo glamorising the site....granted its a bit of HDR, but its not exactly glamorous.

    I never knew the power of photographs was that strong!

    1. Emmanuel School is fire damaged death trap - its being kept
    2. Cheshire house has also been torched and is very unstable - its being kept
    3. The secure unit has no windows left in it and has also been torched. - its being kept

    So, with that being said, what exactly are they going to demolish.

    I did not realise that there was a law to break which covered glamorising trespass.

    I am very tempted to put an invoice in to them, but its the first time this is happened so i dont even know if its worth the hassle..nor do i have any idea how much to charge them - anyone browsing this thread who has had this happen care to share their experiences?
     
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    Fuck me', the whole forum will be in the press soon :rolleyes:

    Copy & paste headlines
     
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    Underground group you say...

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    "death trap"? ffs...
     
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    Right,

    My 'legal rep' has been on the phone to the person who wrote this article and they have said the following:-

    "because the picture are housed on the public domain - i.e. posted on the forum, they can take them as they are on the public domain"

    I do not think this is right because the images are not actually housed on this site, they are linked to my site, so in theory, all though they have been taken 'from this site', they have still been taken from my site and they have had the watermark removed.

    They are trying to tar everyone with the 'vandalism' brush and if i push this issue with them is it more hassle than its worth.

    Hopefully some people who have been through this before will be able to come on and offer further advice.

    Cheers all
     
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    Well, that's patently bollocks. Ask if anything on their website is fair game - it's "public domain" after all.

    Just because something is on a website does not remove any copyright from it.
     
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    Its irrelevant where the pictures are hosted if you haven't sold them royalty free they are yours, stick the invoice in.

    If that was the case (what they are saying) whats to stop anyone going to photo stock sites and just copying and pasting!! Just because its in the public domain doesn't give anyone a right to it
     
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    It was also something to do with 'a link to a website at the bottom of the photo is not a watermark and we have the right to remove that to print the photos'

    It all seems bollocks to me too, but they probably have more experience of this than me and i have no idea what the correct legal terms are for everything!
     
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    LOL they have no right to remove anything unless its stated. If the link goes to your website and it says please help yourself to all my pictures royalty free for example.
     
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    They don't have the right to do anything - you own the copyright in the image. Removing your watermark (ignore their semantics bollocks) could be seen as deliberately attempting to erase evidence of the true copyright holder - they can't claim they didn't know who owned the image.

    I'm sure there are others on here who can help with drafting a letter - but I'd just bung them an invoice and give them 14 days to pay up before you take it to the small claims court.
     
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    It does not say either way on my site if the photos can be taken or not, so my thinking is that they can't just take them because it does not explicitly say they can't.

    It would be good to see a draft letter/info on what has happened to people when this has happened before.
     
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    Your thinking is right - you own the copyright always, you don't need to state it.
     
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