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Report - The Welsh Streets - Liverpool - June 2013 -

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  1. georgie

    georgie He Never Even Got There
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    Extensive regeneration has taken place in Toxteth over the last few years, including demolition of many of the Victorian terraces in the area. This has created much new development but also scarred the area with cleared sites and derelict streets. There has been strong local opposition to demolition of the Granby Triangle and the Welsh Streets, attracting extensive coverage in the national media. Four streets in the Granby Triangle have been removed from the clearance plans. However, clearance is still the official policy for 11 streets near Princes Park. These are nicknamed the "Welsh Streets" due to being built and lived in c.1880 by skilled Welsh workers. Welsh immigrants built a large percentage of buildings around Liverpool in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. The streets were named after Welsh towns, valleys and villages because of this. Musician Ringo Starr was born in 9 Madryn Street, where he lived until the age of 4. His family then moved to Admiral Grove, a minute's walk away, where he was still living when he joined the Beatles. All the Beatles attended Ringo's 21st birthday party at Admiral Grove.

    The threat to Starr's birthplace announced in 2003 prompted uproar in parts of the neighbourhood and among fans all over the world. A proposal was made in September 2005 to take down the house brick by brick and rebuild it as a centrepiece for the Museum of Liverpool Life. This was a reversal of Liverpool council's earlier claim the house had no historic value. However, as of 2012, number 9 Madryn Street and several hundred other houses still stands, although most have been emptied of residents. Starr said it was not worth taking the house down simply to rebuild it elsewhere, as it would not then be his birthplace. Many suggested demolition of the area surrounding Starr's home was unsatisfactory, claiming "People liked the city's character, not packaged replicas".

    Council survey data published in 2005 showed the Welsh Streets were broadly popular with residents and in better than average condition, but were condemned for demolition because of a perceived 'over-supply' of 'obsolete' terraced houses in Liverpool. The land was offered to private developer Gleeson's and social landlord Plus Dane and proposals published for lower density houses. Some residents were happy to be offered new homes, while others were determined to stay. The proposals have divided the local community.

    Clearance has proved highly contentious, with some taking the view that the houses are beyond rescue, while others believe they are fundamentally sound. Campaigning charities led by Merseyside Civic Society and SAVE Britain's Heritage have asserted that renovation would be preferable and cheaper. By 2009 over 100 residents had been rehoused together into a neighbourhood nearby which they had helped to design. Others had left the area altogether. In 2011 the Secretary of State quashed planning permission for demolition and required an Environmental Impact Assessment. In summer 2012 new proposals for demolition of 250 houses were endorsed by Liverpool Mayor Joe Anderson and Housing Minister Grant Shapps, who visited the area to announce retention of 9 Madryn Street and 15 adjacent homes. Local residents in the Welsh Streets Home Group have consulted on alternative renovation proposals that retain the majority of the houses, remodelled as environmentally friendly eco-homes.



    the welsh streets webite for more indepth reading...and old pics

    The Story So Far | Welsh Streets

    some recent echo articles regarding the streets

    Great British Property Scandal architect George Clarke objects to Liverpool Welsh Streets regeneration plans - Liverpool Echo

    Have your say on £15m Welsh Streets development plans - Liverpool Echo

    £15m plans for Liverpool?s Welsh Streets unveiled - Liverpool Echo

    Exclusive: Welsh Streets demolitions edge closer as row over taxpayer ?subsidy? builds - Liverpool Echo

    obviously not the most of inspiring sites to post,mainly posted due to its historical value,externals only on this one,tbh i dont think the internals would be any better than the externals.

    i have some fond memories of this place when growing up around toxteth and the L8 area and have met some good people from these streets,some i still see and speak to even today.....................

    heres a short youtube vid about the streets

    spirit of the streets - YouTube

    ariel view of the streets
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    21 Madryn Street, the House that Refused to Die: June 2011
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    there was filming going on here a few months ago and this entire street was dressed and painted this black colour,also false houses were installed at the ends of the street

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    as mentioned in the history,ringo starr the beatles drummer was born in this street
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    and it was house number 9 where it happened (the one on the left of the pic)
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    on an earlier visit just a few months ago with kevsy21 the house was littered with graffiti from people who have travelled from all over the world to see this....today it seems to have been cleaned up
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    also found some old signs on the corner of kelvin grove
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    some panos

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    fabulous pics
     
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