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Question - What should I look at next?

Discussion in 'Photography and Video Forum' started by Hive, Jun 1, 2014.

  1. Hive

    Hive 28DL Full Member
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    Hey there all!

    I've slowly been building up my arsenal over the past few months, investing in both a decent tripod and waterproof camera bag however now I'm interested in grabbing myself another lens. At the moment I only have the 18-55 kit and was looking into either an ultra wide-angle (10-20) or a fisheye however they're both a bit pricey.

    What's everyone's thoughts on lenses? What should I grab next, a 35 or 50mm prime? Is putting the money into a decent wide-angle worth it?

    Cheers!
     

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  2. georgie

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    I can recommend the tokina 11-16 f2.8
     
  3. ViralEye

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    i second this ^^^^^^^^^^ superb lens
     
  4. Muttley

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    IMO everyone should have a 35mm in their bag - great multi-purpose lens for derping, family portraits etc - and available for relative cheapness
     
  5. Styru

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    Save your money, get out, take pics, post reports, get comfortable with your kit - if you need to ask what you need next - you don't need it yet :thumb
     
  6. paulpowers

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    All the lenses in the world aren't going to make the actual exploration anymore enjoyable, I've been using a kit lens and a 16mm fisheye for the last few years until I recently killed another 17 - 70 and was offered a wangle for a good price
     
  7. Echo Seven

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    I'd go for the wide angle zoom. The 50mm prime I don't think is that much use as you've got 50mm covered in your current zoom and mostly with urbex your looking for a decent DOF not shooting at f1.8, although it does help looking through the viewfinder in the dark if you have a 1.4 or 1.8.
     
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    Yes, very much so. Put it this way, I got a very nice 18-105 VR lens bundled with my Nikon, and I swear it's never been on my camera, bought the Tokina at the same time and have never taken it off.

    Like Styru days though, why are you asking? If you feel restricted by your current equipment, then you would know what kit needs upgrading. If you don't need it, save your money for when you do.
     
  9. eclectic

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    Another thing that's a deciding factor is whether your using a crop or Full Frame sensor?

    A lens will project a view larger than the full frame view, obviously it has to. The crop sensor images a smaller area more in the middle of the lens compared to the full frame sensors. This can act as "more reach" or "less wide angle".

    If you stick a 14mm lens on a full frame you get a 14mm wide view. On the 1.6x crop you'd have to times that by 1.6x and end up with a 22mm view which isn't as wide.

    This is because you aren't imaging as wide of an area as the full frame is with x lens on. So crops can either be :turd in that sense or they can be :thumb at the telephoto side, since a 400mm lens acts more like a 640mm on a crop sensor.

    :)
     
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    Everyone's missing the point when it comes to crop sensors and lenses. Nothings like anything. If you have a crop sensor then 11mm is 11mm, wide is wide. It doesn't matter what would happen on another camera somewhere else in the world if that person decided to take the same identical picture.
     
  11. Els

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    Also I would be very careful buying a apc sized lens and expecting it to work on a full frame. None of my apc sized lenses work on the the 35mm film camera I have unless I zoom them in quite a bit. Other way round is fine, just multiply the mm by 1.5 to get the equiv mm in apc size. I have 20mm and 31mm primes which work out at about 30mm and 50mm on an apc sized camera.
     
  12. eclectic

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    Sorry, the point I was trying to make is the Field of view changes between the sensors.

    The 1.6 crop does NOT zoom in closer, effectively making say a 50mm lens on a full frame effectively 80mm on a 1.6 crop. Remember it is a crop of the image, hence 1.6 crop, not an increase in magnification which would translate to 1.6x multiplier.

    Also, the EF-S range of lenses from Canon are specifically designed to focus the image onto the smaller sensor size. This is one of the reasons why EF-S lens cannot be used on full frame bodies as the sensor would just have a severe black circular border where no light was capture. The other issue is the mirror flip up physically hitting the back of the EF-S lens.
     
  13. SilentPenguin

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    In all honesty when urban exploring I wouldn't even consider swapping lenses and so I wouldn't consider a fixed or small range zoom, I use an 18-135mm canon lens and that serves me pretty well for the range of sizes you need, occasionally I wish I had a wider angle lens but I don't think I would benefit from restricting myself to a small zoom lens when down in these places.
     
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    As you say 18-135 covers pretty much everything but once you whack a 10 or 12mm on you will be smitten and down a fair bit of wedge, it is the only way to cure lens lust, honestly kids dont need school shoes or food :)
     
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