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Report - Allt-y-Crib (Talybont) 10/3/11

Discussion in 'Mines and Quarries' started by justjay, Mar 10, 2011.

  1. justjay

    justjay 28DL Full Member
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    Decided to take a Visit this place today as i had the day off work..
    Alltycrib was mainly a lead mine, although some copper was also produced. Although many of the 19th century mining companies had the word “silverâ€￾ in their name, it’s unlikely that any silver was actually produced. The ore from this mine had a very low silver content but was useful as a flux to smelt the silver rich ores of Darren and Cwmsymlog.
    The very first mining activity probably coincides with early to middle Bronze Age, the attraction being the copper deposits which occurred over to the west. There are also very strong indications of Roman mining, but large scale mining only started stared in 1617 when Sir Hugh Myddleton took over the leases for the Society of Mines Royal. Later the mines were worked by Thomas Bushell whose name was given to the a level commenced in 1637 and driven for a distance of 200 fathoms. This was to be the main working level of the mine for the next 200 years.
    After Bushell left, little was done until the frenzy of the early 19th century when the Flintshire Smelting Company drove a deep adit from the centre of Talybont village. This was at a place known as “Y Wernâ€￾ which is behind the 2 pubs.
    This level was intended to undercut the old miners bottoms, however it not only failed to do this, but it was found that almost everything had already been taken. Regardless of this a succession of companies took over the leases; unfortunately these included some pretty sharp characters. Notable is the swindler Joseph Fell who in consort with his lifetime business associate Richard Barrabee Fastnedge and the bent mine captain Thomas Glanville managed to con investors with what must be some of the most outrageous assertions ever made about the prospects of a mine.
    The last company to work the mine was the Talybont Lead Mines Ltd formed in 1910 from a partnership of the kindly David Williams of Clettwr Hall and a mining engineer, ex shale miner named Archibald Simpson. The Williams family was a branch of the Williams family of Scorrier, as in Williams Perran Foundry.
    The Talybont Company was responsible for the driving of a wide, straight crosscut level known as Pryces Level named after the mineral lords, the Pryces of Gogerddan. The level is somewhat unique as it was driven using Kelldrills designed by Moses Kellow of Croesor, the only other metal mines to use these drills being May Mining Company at Cwmystwyth and Rio Tinto. Operating by water at extreme pressure, they never caught on due to their size and difficulty to control.
    The mine can be geographically divided 2 distinct areas.
    The lower site of the deep adit and dressing floors at the Wern, and the upper workings on the Alltycrib Hill. However, very little remains at either.
    The main assessable workings on the hill are Myddletons Level, a fine ‘coffin’ type level driven by Sir Hughes people, Wilkinsons Level, an early level enlarged and re-named in the 19th Century, and the air shaft. The latter, now used for access to the deep mine, was blocked by a major collapse until a winze was sunk by my friends from the Welsh Mines Society and I in May 2004. The deep adit was reached at a depth of 75 feet from the point that we started, the total descent being about 150 feet.
    The lower site at the Wern was totally obliterated when the land was sold off and levelled in the 1930s, and now forms a private garden. The deep adit portal was buried during site clearance.
    A project in the mine was started in 2004 which involved the driving of a roadway through collapsed ground to attempt to reach the workings over to the west, however this was terminated after about 140 feet without success.
    In 2008 another project was started to clear a drainage culvert at the Wern. This carried the water from the mine portal to the river Ceulan. The reason for this was because drainage had become blocked over the years and water in the mine could sometimes be up the roof after heavy weather. This was by kind permission of the landowner, Mrs Valma Jones.
    This project gained success in the October of that year when we uncovered a drainage pipe put in when the land was levelled in the 1930s.

    There are many interesting underground features to be seen today, the remains of an underground horse whim, a kibble, and the remains of the pumping angle bob at the engine winze. A side level has the remains of a very early wooden kibble and a powder barrel that could well date back to the 18th century or earlier.


    A small doorway they have made to keep the wood dry but it looks like the door to hell..

    Put there after years of work.. :Not Worthy



    This must have taken ages :crazy

    This was all the hard work they had done most sundays for 3 years :eek:


    well worth a visit :thumb
    and a massive thanks to them guys for all that diggin work :Not Worthy

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  2. steffaldo

    steffaldo 28DL Member
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    What the heck, where is this, lived in Talybont my whole life and have never heard a mention of this place...
  3. The Lone Ranger

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    Nice looking mine, cheers for posting :thumb
  4. pirate

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    That's a new one for me,interesting.......another to add to the Underground list
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