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Report - Welsh Gold Mines 1 - Clogau (Wales, Feb, 2022)

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urbanchemist

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If you’ve ever heard of Welsh gold it’s probably because it’s traditionally used in wedding rings for the Royals.
Clogau was where gold was first discovered in the mid 1800s - it was one of largest Welsh mines and is one of the few still operating (sort of).
It started out as a copper mine until gold was found in the quartz, which is normally thrown away, precipitating a series of mini gold rushes in the Dolgellau area.




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A lot of history is available for this one which I won’t reproduce here, instead adding something about the various locations as we go along.
It’s currently leased by a mineral exploration company and some of the levels (tunnels) are in use, so no pictures of these.
But there are plenty of other disused holes on the Clogau hill to explore as shown on the satellite view below - the red dots are levels marked on 1949 maps, excluding a few on the eastern side.




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Starting with the Eliza Level on the south slope, this was started as a drainage level for the higher workings in 1861 at the insistence of Crown mineral agents.
The going was slow despite trying newly developed steam-powered rock drills, and it didn’t get far.
The entrance is next to a ruin, with the tunnel going straight in for maybe 75 yards.



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Heading round the hill I had a look for the Bryntirion Level, as well as some older levels shown below but didn’t find anything.
These are supposed to adjacent to an incline, built in the 1840s to take down ore from higher workings to a mill in the valley.
The ruined incline drum house is still there…



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…with the lower part of incline now roamed by inquisitive locals.



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Walking up a tramway which once carried ore around the mountain to the top of the incline we come to an area of shafts, trials and open workings.
The only explorable thing here is the ‘No 2’ level which targeted mineral veins to the west of a fault which runs down the middle of the hill.




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Looking right, a tall stope with holes in the roof.


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This goes down a long way but you’d need ropes to get any further - people have obviously been down judging by recent anchors nearby.
Going left past another deep hole, phone pic over the edge…



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…is more stope, but it’s on the far side of another chasm in the floor.
This is a recurring feature of the copper/gold mines in this region - a lot is out of reach without climbing equipment.




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Further up the hill is the ‘No 1’ or St David’s level, which was aimed at veins to the east of the fault.


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Going right at the vein eventually leads to large drop, with holes in the roof letting in light beyond.


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A chunk of quartz, which is everywhere in these mines, on the waste tips outside and even in field walls.
This bit is rather clean - the miners were after grubby quartz which contained the finely divided gold which they new from experience occurred in small areas - ‘bonanza loads’ - near intersections with the ‘carboniferous shale’.
In modern parlance the shale acts a reducing agent to precipitate the gold, in much the same way that gold nanoparticles are produced in the lab these days.
The gold was then isolated by grinding up the rock and recovering the specks by a combination of physical and mercury-based methods.



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Going left past a hole in the roof with a boulder the size of a bus lodged in it, there are more stopes until a dead end is reached.



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Just uphill from here is where some of the holes in the roof emerge, with ruins of a mine office and workshop and more waste tips nearby.
There are several other fenced-off shafts and a run-in level on top of the hill.



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urbanchemist

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Heading round the hill we come to ‘Old Clogau’, the original copper mine where gold was discovered.



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Some of the waste on the right may have come from a flooded level nearby, but there wasn’t enough headroom in this one to be explorable in waders without getting flooded.



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Up a bit further are some shafts and the remains of a horse whim.
Horsey went round and round turning a winding drum, the axle hole for which can still be seen in the centre.




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The ruin looks a mill of some sort - there are no streams up here for a water wheel so it was presumably steam-powered.



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Finally walking down to the Brynygroes Level, which is above the Eliza Level on the same fault where I started.



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Waste pile on the approach, picture taken next to a partially covered shaft.



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This level leads to a single iron-stained stope.



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Looking up at the shaft - there’s a reason why these things are fenced off.



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The tunnels at either end don’t go far.



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Cracking open a few rocks on the waste tip outside - Gold! I is rich!



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Of course you are rather unlikely to find significant quantities of genuine gold-laden quartz just lying around.
The hope of the modern prospectors is that there are still some rich loads in unexplored areas, which the history of these mines suggests is quite likely.
 
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CoblynauTroll

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Hard to describe how much I enjoyed that.
Lovely pic looking back down to Barmouth/Abermaw estuary
Almost wet my pants when I realised the report title has "1" in it
When's part 2... please.. please.. please...
 

CantClimbTom

Enthusiastic Idiot and prolific BS talker
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"...The most distinct difference between gold and pyrite is in their hardness. Gold is one of the most malleable and ductile metals on earth. The mineral can take any shape when flattened and is easily scratched with a pocket knife. Pyrite is noticeably harder with a hardness of 6 on Mohs scale while gold is at a 3..."

Please scratch that Gold in the quartz with a pen knife (if you still have it) and let us know... does it scratch or is it hard? It's just that I've seen things that look so similar although the "gold" in those was more crystal form. I'm really wanting yours to be gold! and I think it is, but without that knife scratch test...?

Fantastic report, great pics. You've left us wanting more!
 

urbanchemist

28DL Regular User
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"...The most distinct difference between gold and pyrite is in their hardness. Gold is one of the most malleable and ductile metals on earth. The mineral can take any shape when flattened and is easily scratched with a pocket knife. Pyrite is noticeably harder with a hardness of 6 on Mohs scale while gold is at a 3..."

Please scratch that Gold in the quartz with a pen knife (if you still have it) and let us know... does it scratch or is it hard? It's just that I've seen things that look so similar although the "gold" in those was more crystal form. I'm really wanting yours to be gold! and I think it is, but without that knife scratch test...?

Fantastic report, great pics. You've left us wanting more!
Of course its the foolish sort of gold - didn't keep the sample but remember checking at the time and it seemed too hard for chalcopyrite (which it might have been).
 
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