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Report - The Engine Houses of the North West, Dec19/Jan20

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albino-jay

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Big red brick mahoosive cotton mills have always interested me. You used to see loads of them, not near where I grew up exactly, but in all the surrounding areas. Returning from days out as a kid, if I started to notice them I knew we were nearly home. Similar to the Cooling towers at Agecroft. So I imagine that nostalgia is probably what fires my interest in them.

Anyway, obviously over the years the number of mills has dwindled massively. Not to say there isn’t still a lot about, just nowhere near as many as there should be. For instance Oldham alone had 320 Cotton Mills in 1921. 320! Thats over 17 million spindles and employing over 37,000 people. Just in Oldham! I’m waffling now as always.

In more recent years I’ve found myself drawn towards the engine houses. Probably to do with Dweeb and Hosts enthusiasm for them rubbing off on me. The tiling, the engineering, the scale of them is simply fascinating….. to me, at least. I know I’ve missed a lot of good un’s that met the wrecking ball and I kick myself at the one’s I knew about, but regrettably never got off my arse to see.

So last year/early this year I thought I’d go and see how may engine houses I can blitz around and see what’s still there. Most of this was done in a month or so, some revisits some new efforts.

It’s been quite fun, nowhere near as easy as you would imagine, It seems mill owners on a whole can be a bit bell endish. So I’ve stuck this report in here for that reason, a couple were permission, most were just the usual brazenness that gets us all into weird and wonderful places.

I know this won’t be to everyones tastes, not that I care engine houses are cool as shit.

Sadly there’s not too much ‘epic’ out there, if any. I’ve managed to find a couple that still have the odd charm though.

Right, It’s a pretty big post so, well I won’t apologise, but what I will do is I’ll link to an album of each one rather than posting too many photos. So I’m not being a “woah look at me look at my FlickR” bellend it’s literally so I’m not posting 300 photo’s in one post.

Just to add it is still an ongoing project there are a fair few I’ve got my eye on that could be awesome but Covid, dickhead owners, receptionists, me being a dickhead and a driving ban etc sort of stopped me in my swing. There are also a few I had arranged permission visits too but Covid ended them dreams. If I manage to tick any more off I’ll add them here.



First up, an old classic




Hartford Mill, Oldham

It’s a classic NW explore, eveybody has been but one part that evaded many for years, including myself, was the engine house. Derpy as hell yet absolutely magnificent. The mill is currently being demo’d at the moment but I believe the engine house is still there, for now.

The mill was powered by a Twin Tandem Urmson & Thompson built engine which developed 1500hp. Sadly it was replaced by electric drivers in 1957 and sent for scrap.

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I’m trying to keep the number of photo’s down but this is the view looking out over the engine house, with Manchester in the distance with Gorse, Ace, Chadderton, Nile, Ram and Raven Mills not too far away. Woulda have been some view back in the day before many of the mills were flattened.

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To see more of the whole Mill, Boiler and Engine House click the link.

Hartford Mill

Next up

Grape Mill, Oldham

I actually managed to find a way in here but it was a bit dodgy so on the off chance I asked at reception. The lady on the desk looked confused and passed me onto the caretaker. He seemed genuinely happy that someone of my age LOL was showing an interest. Turns out he worked on the engine when it was still there so was more than happy to show us around a few bits of the mill, sharing some of his stories. Top guy!

Grape Mill had a J. Musgrave cross compound drop valve engine built in 1905 and could produce 2000hp at 80RPM. It was scrapped in 1960. The engine house is disused now but houses some ventilation equipment from when it was still used as a spinning mill.


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Imperial Mill, Blackburn

Housed a Twin Tandem Triple Expansion engine by Yates & Thom built in 1901. It was named King Edward VII and Queen Alexandra, capable of 1700hp with a 38 rope 27ft flywheel. Scrapped for electric in 1963.

Most recently used as a joinery workshop? Been left a few years by the looks of it now. The tiling is clinging on for its life in some places but one I really enjoyed. Access was pretty interesting too.

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Eckersley’s Mill No 2 & 3, Wigan

No 2

Housed a large single crank tandem engine built by J Musgrave in 1884 which replaced a beam engine it originally used. It was scrapped in 1963.

This is an absolute deathtrap, I had to use some slings and my camera bag to get down into the depths, where I was greeted with quite a bit of Asbestos. Obviously.

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The engine being scrapped

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No 3

Far prettier than No 2, very very fetid but it has some amazing tilework.

It actually housed two engines this one, the main area had a J & E Woods Triple expansion vertical engine which was fitted in 1900 developing 1000hp. This wasn’t enough though and was overloaded. So in 1922 a small 300hp uniflow Robeys of Lincoln engine was installed in the small room/engine house next door. Between the 3 mills on the Eckersley complex there were 5 engines and 16 boilers in the 1940’s. Badass!

So this is No 3 with the smaller secondary engine house to the right

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The Robeys engine

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The same room today

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And this is the main engine room where the vertical engine would have been.

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More here Eckersley's 2&3




Heron Mill, Oldham

I’ve not seen this one before so I was pleasantly surprised to see it unused with a lot of original features. The mill is currently well in use by a textile company which is good. I can’t find too much info out about it other than it had a George Saxon inverted vertical cross compound engine pumping out 1400hp and as most, scrapped in the early 60’s.

The engine house in 1960 just before the engine was scrapped. The view is sadly not the same with only Devon Mill left in the background.

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Two really bad photo’s of the engine but from what I believe they are the only existing photo’s of the engine. So better than nowt.

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Devon Mill, Oldham

Moving on up the road another mill still in use, I managed to slip past security and have a good nosey around the engine house. Bit of a noob move really, because I would have been in and out undetected but whilst I was in the darkness of the engine house I heard some voices. I got out without them seeing how I’d got in but turned out that I’d parked my car in the turning circle and I’d forced a wagon to do some ridiculous point turn. I appeared from a bush and said I ws just taking externals they were ok with me so it wasn’t too bad.

Again I can’t find much out about this one other than it a had a George Saxon engine of 1200hp.

An old photo with a nice view of the mill from the nearby football pitches.

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The engine house as it stands today, with ample parking….if you’re not a bell end like me. :D

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Tiiiiiiiiiles. It was weird this one, it was still tiled at the lower level, which would usually just be full of steam pipes and grime. I’ll keep digging for more information on this one as it it’s pretty interesting.

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Trencherfield Mill, Wigan

OK I know this one was a museum but still it’s a Engine house so it’s happening.

A Twin Tandem triple expansion engine by J & E Wood of Bolton. It was the largest engine they built and was capable of 2500hp at 67rpm. It still works, well it did. Sadly Wigan council decided to pull funding to the museum around the end of 2019. It’s currently covered up, the guy who let me in was proper sound but he wouldn’t let us remove the covers. The mill is currently being used by a drama school. It’s unknown what will happen to the engine house. There was also a lot of spinning machinery in the mill he showed us, which was in the process of being moved over to Leigh Spinners No 2 museum, which I’ll move onto next.

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Leigh Spinners No 2, Leigh

This is the dream, well it was. A full derp engine house, untouched for years with it’s engine still in situ. @host and @Camera Shy managed to find it and snap some shots of it years ago and now it is in the process of being restored for steaming. EPIC! It’s a museum, it’s totally free and the mill has a small cafe in there, usually some art exhibitions and then a textile museum and of course the engine house, the people running it are a great informative bunch so if you’re ever in the area it’s deffo worth popping by.

It’s a Twin horizontal cross compound engine by Yates & Thom of Blackburn named Mayor and Mayoress, producing 2,200hp. Although it may not look it, as it sits so low, it is one of the largest engines of this design and having been in a load of engine houses, empty ones at that. To actually go here and see the size of it was unreal. It’s crazy to think how many of these were running around the clock all over the northwest at the same time. Mental.

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This is a photo @Camera Shy took in 2014.

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His full report can be found here Report (Permission Visit) - Leigh Spinners Engine House (2014) | Noteworthy Reports

Here’s a pic of myself, the misses (who looks thrilled to be dragged around here) and my lad. erm, but yeah you can get a scale for the size of the engine pretty well.

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You can check out their website for more info http://leighspinnersmill.co.uk/index.php

Or just go and visit them! I highly recommend it.




Majestic Mill, Oldham

I was trying to gain access to the mills nearby. Failed. As I’m documenting the engine houses it’s still getting done.

The engine house has been demolished but some tiling remains. There is even a neat pile of some carefully removed ones on the floor for Dweeb ;-)

All I can find out is that it had a J & W McNaught engine of 1600hp.

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Nile Mill, Oldham

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The Mill is in use, it’s currently having quite a bit of money spent on it. Not too sure what’s happening but some sore of re development, the engine house was including within them plans too for a community leisure centre thing. So I’d hazard a guess at a climbing wall like Pear Mill or summat.

Been empty for years, it’s a bit deadly, but still it’s mega cool for an anorak like me.

Housed a McNaught Double Beam engine with a triple expansion on each beam and could develop 2400hp. It was also the last mill to be built with a beam engine. The engine was scrapped in 1960.

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Nile Mill




Fir Mill, Oldham

Scott & Hodgson Inverted vertical triple expansion engine built in 1906 with 1700hp at 81rpm.

These are just crap phone shots but you get the jist of it.

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Mutual Mills No 1, Heywood

Cross Compound engine built by J & E Wood with valves below. Named Hornby and Tattersall. 1250hp at 53rpm built in 1885.

Another phone shot this, the whole lot is in use and the engine house is a loading bay.

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Vine Mills, Oswaldtwistle

Can’t find much about this one, but it’s a double engine house which once housed a Yates & Them Cross Compound and it is now a deathtrap.

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Swan Lane No3, Bolton

I had arranged to visit No 1 & 2, but Covid has made that impossible at the moment.

This was 1&2

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I’ve also included one of Dweebs photo’s

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And his report Report - - Swan Lane Mills Engine House, March 2015 | Industrial Sites

No1 was built in 1903, a Geo Saxon of Manchester Cross Compound engine providing 1300hp at 62rpm. The archway was bricked up until No2 mill was completed in 1906 and had a identical engine but it ran 65rpm and produced 1400hp

I can’t find anything out about No 3 but it’s a beaut. It’s my favourite mill. It’s so over the top with it’s intricate details so I’ve hammered it on the photo’s but is’ mighty impressive. The chimney was also reduced in height by a well known Steeplejack of the area too ;-)

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A false ceiling has been added but the crane does remain above it.

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A Swan on the roof, swans on the engine house capping. Amazing.

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I can’t find much information out about these now so I’ll just let the pictures do the talking.




Warwick Mill, Middleton

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Warwick Mill




Ram Mill, Oldham

George Saxon 1800hp Cross Compound.

The mill and engine house today

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I thought this was a pretty interesting photo showing Chadderton PS in the background. I think the PS was demolished in the 80’s.

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Osbourne Mill, Oldham

Hick Hargreaves & Co engine, 1200hp scrapped in the 60’s. Some old photo’s showing a Adamason economic boiler being installed which I thought was pretty cool.

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Lorne Mill, Bolton

This was a permission visit, really nice guy who runs the mill, who appreciates local history.

They must have spent all of their money on the mill which is quite fancy looking, because the engine house was a bit of a disappointment.

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Bolton Textile Mill, Bolton

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Cowling Mill, Chorley

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Gidlow Mill, Wigan

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Meadow Mill, Stockport

The Mill is currently being redeveloped into apartments. I’ve had a wander around here a few times but the engine and boiler house has always been secure. Site manage was pretty cool and let the security guard show me around. Turns out the security guard used to work the boiler, and before him, his Dad did, feeding it by hand until it was upgraded to automated hoppers. The coal fed boilers still powered the heating in the mill up until a couple of years ago!

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Dove Mill, Bolton

Used as strange rooms now and a corridor into the main mill. A engine house is the last place I’d imagine to see some Keith Haring! I’m a massive Haring fan so I’ll take it as a win? Lol IT has some unusual stained glass too, which apparently is original, who knows. I do know they have wonky lights!

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Beehive No1, Bolton

Sadly demolished along with it’s sister mill No2 earlier this year to make way for housing. Listed, yet it seems that doesn’t matter to Bolton Council. Wankers.

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Managed to find a couple of Beehive now

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Beehive Mills 1&2




Atlas No6, Bolton

Musgrave 2500hp twin tandem engine.

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Now a builders merchant

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Still has the crane and wooden panelling in place though

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Vine Mill, Royton

George Saxon Triple expansion engine.

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Werneth Mill, Oldham

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Like I said, there are still tons more some potential gems too. A few I had in the pipeline but current situations have ruined. I’ll keep an eye on them, keep trying them. See whats what eh.

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albino-jay

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So bit of a small update. I've edited the original post to fix some broken links and I've managed to get into a few more so I've added them here:

Mutual Mills No2

J & E Wood Triple expansion engine named Amy and Edith.

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Butts Mill, Leigh

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I managed to have a poke around the boiler house here a few years ago but never managed the engine house. I did have a contact number for the owner who was happy to let me in, then Covid happened and I forgot and it never materialised. Anyway whilst passing with work a while back I thought I'd try my luck again. The owners son was on site and with a bit of persuading he allowed me to climb the freshly erected scaffold and do my thing.

Boiler house

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Engine house

2500ihp Cares cross compound

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Chadderton Mill, Chadderton

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Another I was passing with work. Checked this out tons of times whilst in the area, luckily this time it was dead. looked like they'd recently started to fit new windows to the mill and the engine house door was just swinging in the wind. Absolute shite to be fair but one I'm happy to finally see after trying so many times.

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Little Brucey bonus with this one though. There are air raid shelters around the back of the mill.

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Crimble Mill, Bury

Originally housed a Beam engine. Engine house can be seen as part of the mill with the tall arched window.

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As you can see, it's a bit ropey in there.

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Brunswick Mill, Ancoats

Originally housing a Double Beam engine.

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Thornham Mill, Royton

Not to sure what the deal is with this mill at the moment, It was due for demolition a couple of years ago to make way for a Aldi store.

Anyway. It was powered by a Woolstenhulmes & Rye 500ihp engine.

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Norwich St Mills, Rochdale

The mill was still used as a textile mill until it suffered a fire around ten years ago, where someone tragically lost their life.

The engine house is still standing at the rear of the site. I can't find any info out about it.

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I've got a few more, but now I've actually sat down and finally got round to updating the thread. I can't for the life of me remember what ones I've been in. These are just the ones I've uploaded to albums on FlickR. I'll have to have a proper scope through my Lightroom catalogue someday. Today is not that day though. :rofl
 

urbanchemist

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That's excellent - well worth recording them all in one place like this. Mutual mills has another derelict one round the back - not much in it though.
 

host

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Outstanding mate I love it, you can see how much effort has gone into this. Loving the old shots too. That guy at meadow mill I got some great portraits of him with the coal and boiler. Job well done.
 

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dweeb

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Few I've not done there, you've done well! Nice to see there are a couple of fancy ones left yet to see.

Im still sore about how shit Beehive's was in the end, worst engine house ever!
 

albino-jay

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Cheers guys, I thought might be good to just see a few in one place.
I’ve realised I’ve messed up too. It’s actually @Camera Shy ’s photo and report on Leigh Spinners. (It was a late one fuelled by Red Stripe)

If a mod could edit it for me? Or unlock it so I can.

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