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Report - Rhosydd slate mine, Blaenau Ffestiniog, North Wales, July 2021/January 2022

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HughieD

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1. The History
Slate was first discovered at Rhosydd in the early 1830s by two men nearby in Croesor. Assuming it was on the estate of Croesor Fawr, they approached owner, William Turner, to request permission for them to quarry the rock. Around the same time, it was also found by Meredydd Jones of Maenofferen. He assumed that it was on the Cwmorthin Ucha estate, and approached its owner, William Ormsby Gore. Given the boundary between the two estates was ill-defined in this region, a court case in 1833 followed to define the boundary. Small scale working began when Mr Mathews from Aberystwyth obtained a lease, and created the first adit (the now collapsed adit 0) in the 1840s. In 1852, a five-way partnership was established which, in June 1853, became the Rhosydd Slate Company. It was four floors deep, with adits cut at levels 1, 2 and 4 Finished slates were transported by pack horse when quarrying began in 1854 and then onwards by the Ffestiniog Railway. Two years later, in November 1856, the company became a Ltd legal entity. The company was created with a nominal capital of £50,000, and all the shares had been issued by 1862 with most of the money coming from London.

Annotated old O/S map of the quarry showing the quarry in 1919:

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Transportation improved in 1864, with the opening of the Croesor Tramway. There were three inclines; two at Garreg Hylldrem, and one at Blaencwm. It included inclines that descended around 750 feet, which represented two of the highest single-pitch inclines in Wales. By this time, slate was being worked on five levels, and there were two adits, one of 500m and a second, the longest at 677m (adit no.9). The latter took eight years to complete. An internal incline was also built downwards from floor 5 with an average gradient of 1:2. The first four wagons descended the incline on 1st August 1864, and for the next few years, production averaged around 200 tons per month. In March 1871, the lease was renewed for a further 42 years, but with adequate returns not forthcoming, the company went into liquidation two years later, in June 1873. A year on, an auction took place in Manchester on 27th June, 1874. The quarry sold for just £29,500 and the new owners established the New Rhosydd Slate Quarry Company Ltd on 10th October, with three-quarters of the initial shares in the new company purchased by local people from Ffestiniog and the surrounding area.

The peak year for the quarry was in 1885, when 6,484 tons of finished slates were produced by the 207 men. The company was successful with good dividends paid to investors between 1876 and 1889. However, profitability declined and then in 1900, a large section of the underground workings collapsed in what was known as the "Great Fall". The huge rock fall destroyed much of the eastern workings but mining continued in the west and on Floors 11, 12 and 13. However, a new quarry was needed and as a result, new workings opened in 1906. The subsequent success of the quarry was curtailed by a slump in the slate trade prior to the First World War, and then by the war itself. The quarry was shut down in 1914 as slate quarrying was deemed to be a "non-essential industry", although two men were retained to maintain it. It reopened after the war, in 1919, but with the company’s finances in a poor state, the company went into voluntary liquidation in July 1921. It was then sold for £23,798 to two members of the Colman family, better known for producing Colman's mustard. Struggling to find markets for their product, Rhosydd closed on September 1930. Again, two caretakers were retained, and the pumps continued to operate, in the hope that it could be reopened.

In December 1947, Captain John S Matthews bought the quarry, together with the Croesor and Conglog quarries, with a view to reopening all three. Sadly his plans went awry, and the pumps were finally turned off in 1948 and the equipment removed for scrap. During its operations, around 222,000 tons of slate were produced, and with the waste tips containing some 2.5 million tons of rock, the yield was approximately 1 ton of slate to 10 tons of wastage. The quarry was purchased by McAlpine in the 1990s, but quarrying was not resumed. Since then it has remained an impressive reminder of this once great industry that dominated North Wales.

2. The Explore
Last of my backlog of Welsh slate mines and quarries. One of my favourite places I went to. It’s remote and a good hour’s walk up here so the place has a real atmosphere to it. Visiting twice, both via detours from a family walk, so time was at a premium. The first visit in July 2021 was more fruitful with the second in January 2022 more brief and in very contrasting weather. It’s quite a hike up from the car-park nearby to Tanygrisiau but the path along the former route of the Croesaur Tramway past Cwmorthin mine and along the western banks of the Cwmorthin Lake is rather wonderful. At the end of the lake the path then heads north-west past the much smaller Conglog slate mine as the vast slate tips of Rhosydd loom up to the left.

After a final steep hike upwards you get to the really impressive northern surface remains. You can quite easily spend half an hour or so here. It’s then five minutes southwards to the legendary adit no.9. It’s a really impressive drive and very straight. In summer the water was well below welly level so I headed down it. Bizarrely, in the distance I could see distant lights which got closer to me. It turned out to be a family of five who were doing the (legendary) Croesor-Rhosydd through trip. Having hit the workings I took some pictures before having to head out to catch the fam up as they trekked back down the path to the car.

The second visit I hoped to go back down the adit but this time (not-unexpectedly) the adit was nearly over welly height and progress was slow, so I gave up as a bad job. Heading further south up the track I came to the now blocked adit no.4 and with the weather closing in, headed back. Hence a revisit here in the future is definitely on the cards.

3. The Pictures

Sorry it's a bit picture heavy!

First visit:

First thing of significance are these old miners houses on the edge of Cmworthin Lake:

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Looking over towards Cwmorthin mine:

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The Rhosydd quarrymaster’s house:

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Buildings of Conglog mine:

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And one of its remaining adits:

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Up we go:

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So much slate waste:

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Nearly there:

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This was an old water-wheel housing:

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Looking across to the barracks:

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Stacked full of slates:

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Rusting old engines and chassis:

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HughieD

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CONTINUED:

Love this old slate arch:

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Rusting old slate carriers:

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And on to the entrance to adit no.9:

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Just inside the adit:

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It’s a long, long drive:

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One of the many side galleries:

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And another:
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Distant lights:

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Possibly my fave view at the end of adit no.9:

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Loving the mini turntable:

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A sunken mine cart:

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Big pipeage:

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Doubling back and turning to the left:

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And to some more workings:

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Old gear wheel:

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Time to turn around and pop back out again:

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Bye-by old barracks:

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Back down the track:

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HughieD

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CONTINUED 2:

A few from the second visit. All phone shots. Pretty extreme weather at times and a completely different feel to the place.

Incline drum house no.7, up from adit no.9:

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Adit no.4:

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Sadly blocked off:

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Drum house no.4. It was pretty bleak up here:

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Time to head back down again:

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Past a pretty wet adit no.9:

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And back to the car along the former Croesor Tramway:

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Mikeymutt🐶

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Really great stuff again mate. I always love how there is loads of old ruined buildings and old bits of machinery dotted about.
 

Ferox

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Cool report Hughie. A nice selection of photos. I really like the second to last one :thumb
 

Calamity Jane

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Great coverage and photos (both sets) loving the old slate arch. The lake looks so peaceful. The hike looks like a workout! Lovely remains inside and out.:thumb
 

CantClimbTom

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Great report, really nice pics, the first trip, I've never seen no9 Adit so dry, "Piccadilly Circus" is dry in your pics, I've been in there before when it was deep (and murky) and trying not to trip over unseen track etc.

Thoroughly enjoyed. A mix of happy to see the pics and feeling sad I'm not there right now
 

alex17595

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I've been looking forward to this and you did not dissapoint. Rhosydd is the place that got me into mine exploring after stumbling across it on an os map when planning a walk.

the sunken mine cart was actually a bridge which moved into place when the trwnc was going up and down the incline. This was obviously to allow continous cart access to the west of the floor 9 west workings.


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I think someone has dug a bit of a channel for the water out the front, last time I went it was below welly depth whereas before you have to stand on the sleepers.
 

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HughieD

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Really well covered both under and over ground.
Still have nightmares about this place !
Cheers mate. Was it about collapses?

Cool report Hughie. A nice selection of photos. I really like the second to last one :thumb
Cheers mate. Yeah, it sat up nicely this one. You expect a tumble weed to blow past at any minute.

Really great stuff again mate. I always love how there is loads of old ruined buildings and old bits of machinery dotted about.
Cheers Mikey - yup loads of surface remains here.

Great coverage and photos (both sets) loving the old slate arch. The lake looks so peaceful. The hike looks like a workout! Lovely remains inside and out.:thumb
Cheers CJ. has to be one of the best walks in Wales. Highly recommended!

Great report, really nice pics, the first trip, I've never seen no9 Adit so dry, "Piccadilly Circus" is dry in your pics, I've been in there before when it was deep (and murky) and trying not to trip over unseen track etc.

Thoroughly enjoyed. A mix of happy to see the pics and feeling sad I'm not there right now
Many thanks. Wow, the levels must have been really low for me then. Gave up on it in the winter trip as it was much higher.

I've been looking forward to this and you did not dissapoint. Rhosydd is the place that got me into mine exploring after stumbling across it on an os map when planning a walk.

the sunken mine cart was actually a bridge which moved into place when the trwnc was going up and down the incline. This was obviously to allow continous cart access to the west of the floor 9 west workings.

I think someone has dug a bit of a channel for the water out the front, last time I went it was below welly depth whereas before you have to stand on the sleepers.

Cheers Alex. Yes - that all makes sense now RE: the sunken mine cart and it being part of the trwnc system. You always find the interesting stuff after you have done the explore. Revisit needed.
 

CantClimbTom

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Many thanks. Wow, the levels must have been really low for me then. Gave up on it in the winter trip as it was much higher.
I took my son through CRTT in half term just gone (Feb 18th maybe) so we exited via adit9 (I really wanted to explore Rhosydd but he was too tired by then) and it was very nearly wellie depth in the final 30m but you could *just* do it standing on rocks and sleepers etc and moving slowly but it was a close call to keeping feet dry. One stumble or wobbly rock and it would have been wet feet!
 

Mr Sam

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Really need to get back up there I think i prefer it to Cwmorthin even if it is double the walk/hike :eek:
 
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