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HMP Wellingborough - Oct 18 (Permission Visit)

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Bikin Glynn

28DL Regular User
Regular User
Its been an age since I posted & a bit lame starting with a permission visit I know but here we go!

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Its all gone now Im afraid, but got lucky with this one.
I noticed on fb back in Feb that a guy I knew was working in here & a message was immediately sent without even knowing what he actually did.
A reply of "I'll see what I can do" was taken with a pinch of salt, then out of the blue a month ago a message came in "hey I can get u in this weekend IF you are still interested". Do bears shit in the woods?

My man in question is a superbly nice chap who was thrilled to personally spend 3 hours or so showing myself & one other around. A text I received on the way saying "great security is expecting you" is not one us explorers receive very often & set the tone for the visit.
Turns out hes pretty much running the site for Keir & only had a few demo guys in that day so had nothing better to do.
My only regret is that we were a few months too late as some of the main blocks had already gone & everything was pretty stripped but was still great to see

Before I go into the history the rebuild is as interesting, they are building a 1500 capacity super prison (it was about 650 originally) & are expecting around 1500 workers on site for the rebuild.
They have allocated around 3million.... for the site compound alone!

I struggled to find much "real" history from the place but did stumble upon a book "behind the fence" written by a 20yr serving guard who worked here & another prison (who I have been talking to on fb incidentally) which is brilliant. ( I have never felt physically sick reading a book before lol)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Behind-th...qpBD:rk:f:0

I have my own story from here which I will share in brief.
I did some steelwork in here some 20yr back & remember being let in to the visitors area we were working in through a hole the contractor had exposed in the wall to the block.
At the end of the shift they boarded the hole & we had to exit through the doors. It then came to light that we had not signed in through the correct procedures..it took us 3 hrs before we finally convinced them we were actually working there & got let out!

Anyway this bit nicked from wiki Im afraid
Opened as a Borstal in 1963, Wellingborough continued to hold Young Offenders until 1990, when it was re-rolled as Category C Training Prison for male adults
In December 2003, an inspection report stated that Wellingborough was not meeting the criteria for its role as a training prison. Inspectors found that only half the prisoners were working or in education
However, inspectors also highlighted Wellingborough's good overall safety record, as 80% of inmates reported that they felt safe and 75% reported that staff treated them with respect.
In July 2004, A missionary from Wellingborough Prison was imprisoned for trying to smuggle heroin and cannabis into the jail. The missionary had been a Prison Service-authorised Sikh leader
On 17 July 2012, UK Justice Secretary Kenneth Clarke announced that HMP Wellingborough would be closed by the end of the year, claiming it would save the tax payer £10m a year.[3] The prison formally closed on 21 December 2012

On with the pics, of which there is quite a lot.

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This was one of the segregation cells

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Steps on the outside led to the glazed roof for full vision into the cell

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Interesting cell graffiti

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On to the chapel

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Next we went to see the greenhouses, allegedly "the" scene from the film scum was filmed in one of these here

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Finally we were shown some original 1960s plans from when the prison was built

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Thanks for looking
 
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raisinwing

28DL Regular User
Regular User
Looks good does that, you got some nice photos!

Only improvement to the report would be to remove the Flickr links
 

Marcosteffano

28DL Full Member
28DL Full Member
Just came across this post and site and thought I would give an insight to the borstal having spent many holidays there.
First landed there on the 28th July 1981.i know this because the next day was my 18th birthday and Charles and Diana's wedding day.i got the regular 6 months to 2 years but you had a target date of nearly 1 year depending on you behaviour.i think you went through a grade scheme of green,blue and brown ties.if you didn't get through them you stayed in the place.that was for GBH and I done a year.i learned my trade as a brickie with mr Fred milson who was a really good fella and taught me well.the brickwork in the photo wasn't there when I was there.
It was what I would describe as a proper borstal,shaved head as soon as you got there and not allowed one stitch of personal items.
From the day you entered to the day you were released you never walked and never had your hands in you pockets.it was March,March,March.it was a strict regime and sir came at the back of ever sentence you spoke.
Borstal taught me a lot,discipline,hygiene,respect and most of all a trade that I'm still doing today at 56yrs old.
Anyhow I ended back in there in the place I think just before my 21st and done 7 1/2 months for theft and ABH.it was a young offenders centre by then as borstal had been scrapped.the screws still wore their own clothes when it was borstal but now had uniforms and it was much more laid back.i done another course with Fred milson and now had trained with a CITB certificate and the second one of city and guilds.
Right now here I go again.i got 2 1/2 years in 1993 for cannabis and booked in for the third time.it was then a male adult prison and was a shit hole full of head cases doing 5 yrs up and I got sent there because my brother was doing a 7 year stretch there.
As usual I went on the bricklaying course but by then I was nearly Fred milsons adopted son,lmao.i didn't do the NVQ course then as Fred had me lined up for the national inter-prison bricklayers competition.so I got a job as his workshop no1 and helped others to learn bricklaying as I had been on the trowel outside for a good few years.my little earner was a couple of cigs and a mars bar here and there as Fred was getting on a bit and about to retire.he told me he had enough of the job after it was changed to adult prison as the prisoners were lazy and not really wanting to learn compared to the youngsters.
Anyway we went to a couple of completions and i of course won the final and do have pictures but unfortunately they are in my house in Thailand.mr milson arranged a photo shoot with the governor and Wellingborough local paper to promote what goes on in the prison.we actually sat down and had biscuits and a cuppa tea with the governor which was rarer than rocking horse shite.
My prize for winning was a bag of brickies tools,a couple of packets off Fred and he put it to the governor that I was a good young man and got me a transfer to an open jail.good old Fred,I'll never forget the man.
I learned a lot from Wellingborough and borstal should be reinstated but I doubt they can find the hard staff to do it and what with this human rights crap it could never come back.
Right just to let you know what happened to me.after 1994 when I got out I pulled my finger out and matured a bit and worked bricklaying and I've never been in trouble again apart from one speeding ticket.ive now semi retired and sold up and live in Thailand in the jungle.im currently back in the uk and working for 6 months because I miss the weather and I'm earning very good money.
It's sad to see the prison go as it played a good part of my younger life and in a way reminds me of school but with discipline.
 

Bikin Glynn

28DL Regular User
Regular User
Just came across this post and site and thought I would give an insight to the borstal having spent many holidays there.
First landed there on the 28th July 1981.i know this because the next day was my 18th birthday and Charles and Diana's wedding day.i got the regular 6 months to 2 years but you had a target date of nearly 1 year depending on you behaviour.i think you went through a grade scheme of green,blue and brown ties.if you didn't get through them you stayed in the place.that was for GBH and I done a year.i learned my trade as a brickie with mr Fred milson who was a really good fella and taught me well.the brickwork in the photo wasn't there when I was there.
It was what I would describe as a proper borstal,shaved head as soon as you got there and not allowed one stitch of personal items.
From the day you entered to the day you were released you never walked and never had your hands in you pockets.it was March,March,March.it was a strict regime and sir came at the back of ever sentence you spoke.
Borstal taught me a lot,discipline,hygiene,respect and most of all a trade that I'm still doing today at 56yrs old.
Anyhow I ended back in there in the place I think just before my 21st and done 7 1/2 months for theft and ABH.it was a young offenders centre by then as borstal had been scrapped.the screws still wore their own clothes when it was borstal but now had uniforms and it was much more laid back.i done another course with Fred milson and now had trained with a CITB certificate and the second one of city and guilds.
Right now here I go again.i got 2 1/2 years in 1993 for cannabis and booked in for the third time.it was then a male adult prison and was a shit hole full of head cases doing 5 yrs up and I got sent there because my brother was doing a 7 year stretch there.
As usual I went on the bricklaying course but by then I was nearly Fred milsons adopted son,lmao.i didn't do the NVQ course then as Fred had me lined up for the national inter-prison bricklayers competition.so I got a job as his workshop no1 and helped others to learn bricklaying as I had been on the trowel outside for a good few years.my little earner was a couple of cigs and a mars bar here and there as Fred was getting on a bit and about to retire.he told me he had enough of the job after it was changed to adult prison as the prisoners were lazy and not really wanting to learn compared to the youngsters.
Anyway we went to a couple of completions and i of course won the final and do have pictures but unfortunately they are in my house in Thailand.mr milson arranged a photo shoot with the governor and Wellingborough local paper to promote what goes on in the prison.we actually sat down and had biscuits and a cuppa tea with the governor which was rarer than rocking horse shite.
My prize for winning was a bag of brickies tools,a couple of packets off Fred and he put it to the governor that I was a good young man and got me a transfer to an open jail.good old Fred,I'll never forget the man.
I learned a lot from Wellingborough and borstal should be reinstated but I doubt they can find the hard staff to do it and what with this human rights crap it could never come back.
Right just to let you know what happened to me.after 1994 when I got out I pulled my finger out and matured a bit and worked bricklaying and I've never been in trouble again apart from one speeding ticket.ive now semi retired and sold up and live in Thailand in the jungle.im currently back in the uk and working for 6 months because I miss the weather and I'm earning very good money.
It's sad to see the prison go as it played a good part of my younger life and in a way reminds me of school but with discipline.


Wow thanks for that thats interesting & its sounds like you had & still do have an amazing life if not totally on the line!
I posted pics on facebook last year & it went beserk with dozens of replies mainly from old gaurds but a few cons too, Ill message you the link.
It was certainly a great place to explore & I was thinking about guys like yourself while going around!
 

Marcosteffano

28DL Full Member
28DL Full Member
Nice pics.
Scum was filmed at Shenley mental hospital in Hertfordshire
Yeah I forgot to mention that.it wasn't made in Wellingborough but the film wasn't far off what it was like in there.it was more military like and a lot more inmates.
 

Marcosteffano

28DL Full Member
28DL Full Member
Wow thanks for that thats interesting & its sounds like you had & still do have an amazing life if not totally on the line!
I posted pics on facebook last year & it went beserk with dozens of replies mainly from old gaurds but a few cons too, Ill message you the link.
It was certainly a great place to explore & I was thinking about guys like yourself while going around!
Most of the screws will be brown bread by now.it was over 38yrs ago.they weren't bad people but some were pure bastards.they were a good shot at kicking you right in the arse hole or shins with hard leather shoes or whacking you with a kg of keys on a chain.
 

Bod82

28DL Member
28DL Member
Its been an age since I posted & a bit lame starting with a permission visit I know but here we go!

45687096171_82226c534c_c.jpg


Its all gone now Im afraid, but got lucky with this one.
I noticed on fb back in Feb that a guy I knew was working in here & a message was immediately sent without even knowing what he actually did.
A reply of "I'll see what I can do" was taken with a pinch of salt, then out of the blue a month ago a message came in "hey I can get u in this weekend IF you are still interested". Do bears shit in the woods?

My man in question is a superbly nice chap who was thrilled to personally spend 3 hours or so showing myself & one other around. A text I received on the way saying "great security is expecting you" is not one us explorers receive very often & set the tone for the visit.
Turns out hes pretty much running the site for Keir & only had a few demo guys in that day so had nothing better to do.
My only regret is that we were a few months too late as some of the main blocks had already gone & everything was pretty stripped but was still great to see

Before I go into the history the rebuild is as interesting, they are building a 1500 capacity super prison (it was about 650 originally) & are expecting around 1500 workers on site for the rebuild.
They have allocated around 3million.... for the site compound alone!

I struggled to find much "real" history from the place but did stumble upon a book "behind the fence" written by a 20yr serving guard who worked here & another prison (who I have been talking to on fb incidentally) which is brilliant. ( I have never felt physically sick reading a book before lol)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Behind-th...qpBD:rk:f:0

I have my own story from here which I will share in brief.
I did some steelwork in here some 20yr back & remember being let in to the visitors area we were working in through a hole the contractor had exposed in the wall to the block.
At the end of the shift they boarded the hole & we had to exit through the doors. It then came to light that we had not signed in through the correct procedures..it took us 3 hrs before we finally convinced them we were actually working there & got let out!

Anyway this bit nicked from wiki Im afraid
Opened as a Borstal in 1963, Wellingborough continued to hold Young Offenders until 1990, when it was re-rolled as Category C Training Prison for male adults
In December 2003, an inspection report stated that Wellingborough was not meeting the criteria for its role as a training prison. Inspectors found that only half the prisoners were working or in education
However, inspectors also highlighted Wellingborough's good overall safety record, as 80% of inmates reported that they felt safe and 75% reported that staff treated them with respect.
In July 2004, A missionary from Wellingborough Prison was imprisoned for trying to smuggle heroin and cannabis into the jail. The missionary had been a Prison Service-authorised Sikh leader
On 17 July 2012, UK Justice Secretary Kenneth Clarke announced that HMP Wellingborough would be closed by the end of the year, claiming it would save the tax payer £10m a year.[3] The prison formally closed on 21 December 2012

On with the pics, of which there is quite a lot.

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44961946424_1a49cb7c2c_c.jpg


31814399588_d52aa8423e_c.jpg



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This was one of the segregation cells

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Steps on the outside led to the glazed roof for full vision into the cell

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Interesting cell graffiti

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On to the chapel

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Next we went to see the greenhouses, allegedly "the" scene from the film scum was filmed in one of these here

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Finally we were shown some original 1960s plans from when the prison was built

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Thanks for looking
I was a borstal boy 82/83 I was 15 and so couldn’t learn a trade there wasnt many of us that age so we were lumped into a classroom and basically sat about drawing ,,when we were marching outside older inmates would shout baby burglar at us , I was actually sentenced for nicking a hi viz vest from a council building but as I had previously been incarcerated in detention centre- short sharp shock ( shoplifting evo stik )Borstal it was! It was for me a scary period and probably still impacts me today, anyway thanks for the pics in some way seeing it’s ruins is quite cathartic
 

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